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Who Won the Vice Presidential Debate?

Moms View Message Board: The Kitchen Table (Debating Board): Who Won the Vice Presidential Debate?
By Cocoabutter on Wednesday, October 6, 2004 - 06:58 am:

Now, I have never actually started a debate thread all by myself, tho I have participated in them, and the ones about the election have proven to be the most hotly debated. I am hoping I can just get a name- Edwards or Cheney- without a lot of added commentary, but it is the debate board, after all... which is why I posted this here rather than anywhere else.

I vote Cheney.

By Vicki on Wednesday, October 6, 2004 - 08:10 am:

Cheney hands down!!

By Audreyj on Wednesday, October 6, 2004 - 08:18 am:

You know, I was really surprised. My DH and I want Bush to be the next President but we both agreed that Kerry won the last debate.

Well, I told my DH, "Edwards is young, contemporary and quick, he is going to defeat Cheney. It's really going to be a nightmare, just like Kennedy (young and modern) against a refusing-to-wear- make-up Nixon (an older conservative) all over again."

But I was wrong, and very surprised. Here is Edwards, with a great opportunity to bring in "the younger crowd" and what does he do? He interrupted, he addressed Cheney personally (big nono) and he said Kerry's name THREE times in a response when the moderator told him not to in that particular question! I disagree with Edwards politically (obviously, I guess, since I have already said we are voting for Bush) but I am not discussing the political points here, I am writing about simply obeying the rules. And it is true that eventually, Cheney addressed Edwards personally, too but only after being tremendously provoked. I kept waiting for the moderator to remind the gentlemen of the rules "not to address each other personally" but she didn't. And of course, Edwards STARTED OFF deliberately addressing Cheney personally and breaking the rules from the start. With the internet publicity and the rumor of Kerry "breaking the rules" at the first debate, I would think Edwards would be very, very, determined with the second debate to really be "by the book" but he wasn't.

Political points aside, I would vote Cheney the winner, simply because he stuck more to the agreed format to the debate than Edwards did...

As you have said, "this is the debate board after all....." besides I am too much of a chatterbox to just post a name....:-)

I think Cheney won.

By Sunny on Wednesday, October 6, 2004 - 08:50 am:

I think it was a tie.

Cheney came off to me as arrogant and at times I got the feeling he was impatient for it to be over. Edwards seemed at times to get flustered and misspeak, but he still held his own.

By Kaye on Wednesday, October 6, 2004 - 09:16 am:

I agree it was neck and neck, I think in my mind I expected Edwards to win and in fact he just did not. I think Cheney did much better than expected. It was an interesting debate. Lots of lies thrown around on both sides, I hate that. Are they intentional, or do they really not care about the WHOLE story?

By Colette on Wednesday, October 6, 2004 - 09:16 am:

Cheney.

By Jtsmom on Wednesday, October 6, 2004 - 09:35 am:

Cheney

By Amy~moderator on Wednesday, October 6, 2004 - 09:40 am:

Cheney

By Emily7 on Wednesday, October 6, 2004 - 11:06 am:

As much as I dislike Cheney I think he did a little better than Edwards. I think that more will be told when all the facts are checked.
He just DRIVES me nuts. I just can not get over Haliburton!

By Cat on Wednesday, October 6, 2004 - 11:19 am:

I missed the whole thing. I had a meeting last night. Oh well...

By Kaye on Wednesday, October 6, 2004 - 11:34 am:

Emily did you hear what Faact check said about Haliburton. Yes it was a no bid contract, but simply because no one else had the capability of doing what they did when they did it. I don't know much about the rest, but I thought that was an interesting point that we don't hear much.

By Emily7 on Wednesday, October 6, 2004 - 11:50 am:

Yes I did hear that...but it still doesn't seem right, especially since they were over charging the government.

By Gammiejoan on Wednesday, October 6, 2004 - 01:06 pm:

I saw the debate as a draw.

By Mommyathome on Wednesday, October 6, 2004 - 02:13 pm:

I didn't get to watch all of it. Probably less than half :(
From what I saw, I would say it was basically a tie. I watched recaps on the news and saw that both of them had broken the rules on a couple of different occasions.

I don't like Cheney's attitude. This is the first time I've seen him this "upclose", so to speak. I didn't like him at all.

I like the actual presidential candidate debates over the VP candidate ones :)

By Bellajoe on Thursday, October 7, 2004 - 08:25 am:

Cheney won in my book. He seems more confident, mature, collected, and relaxed with the whole thing. He knows his facts and is also very articulate with them.

Edwards, to me, seemed to be scrambling to get his point across. He drove me nuts.

My dh and I both said that Edwards is more a politician and Cheney is more a businessman.

Of course they both broke the rules. They are debating politicians! They get into their speeches and just get carried away.

By Annie2 on Thursday, October 7, 2004 - 08:03 pm:

Cheney


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