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Moms View Message Board: General Discussion Archive: Archive March 2006: Word Help
By Heaventree on Thursday, March 9, 2006 - 12:52 pm:

Ladies, how do I password protect a document in Word. It used to be in the save as feature, but I can't find it.

TIA

By Ginny~moderator on Thursday, March 9, 2006 - 01:19 pm:

When you click Save As, you get a window with options of where to save it, name, etc.. Near the upper right of that window is Tools. Click that, and you get another window. Near the bottom is where you enter a password to open, and/or a password to modify.

By Heaventree on Thursday, March 9, 2006 - 01:25 pm:

Thanks Ginny!

By Ginny~moderator on Thursday, March 9, 2006 - 06:03 pm:

Cori, I've been using Word for the last 1-1/2 years, and while I love my job, I continue to loathe Microsoft and *especially* Microsoft Word. It is userunfriendly, kludgy, and a royal pain. (And when my formatting went wild after my boss made a few inserts himself in a document today, and I had to rejustify all the margins, I was mumbling loudly for the next hour).

However, I found the solution to your problem by going into help and typing password, and selecting the appropriate help message. Word's help is usually as unfriendly as the rest of it, but this time it worked.

By Dawnk777 on Thursday, March 9, 2006 - 10:21 pm:

Ginny, I have been struggling to make my women's group minutes in an outline form. Last night, I got the outline "form" to work, but couldn't get it to number properly. I'm sure it must work somehow! Argh.

Just wondering if outlines were easier in Word Perfect?

I would get it right for a while, but then if I wanted to change where something was, in the outline, it all messed up. I know I could manually type in the

I.
-- a.
---- i.

stuff manually, but this is supposed to be a computer and happen automatically! LOL!

Minutes File

By Ginny~moderator on Friday, March 10, 2006 - 05:42 am:

Yes, it would be a lot easier in Word Perfect.
I find Word's outline form to be really, really, unhelpful, which makes life difficult because in a law office, legal documents need to have numbered paragraphs, lettered subparagraphs, etc. What I do is "work around" it. If I only have 3-5 subparagrahs, I just type the (a),(b),(c), etc. because doing my workaround takes more time. If you want me to, I'll take a look at your minutes file tonight and see what I can maybe do to help.

Yes, outlining is a whole lot easier in WordPerfect, although even there I did not use the automatic outlining function. What I did was use the keyboard function - Control/Shift/F5 for each paragraph I wanted numbered, and when the window popped up, I told it, by typing in the little window, what level of outline I wanted. Level 1, I; level 2, 1; level 3, a or (a) depending on how I set it up; level 4, i or (i); and so on.

It just shouldn't be so difficult, but the people who designed Word don't, I think, live in the "real world" of word processing.

By Ginny~moderator on Friday, March 10, 2006 - 05:47 am:

Oh, and Dawn, here's a simple workaround for one problem in Word's outline form. If you have more than one paragraph in a section, or want to type a heading between paragrahs, when you hit the enter/return key, of course Word sticks in a new number, which you don't want. What I do is type a couple of spaces after that number, then hit return/enter again to get a new number. If your first paragraph was numbered "1", the second one, where you typed just a few spaces, is "2", and hitting enter/return again gives you "3". Then, go back to "2", delete it and type your paragraph. The "3" automatically becomes "2". The reason for typing the few spaces after each of the numbers you don't want and will eventually delete is that Word then recognizes it as a true paragraph (which it won't do if you just hit return/enter), so it keeps the automatic numbering sequence. This is what I do when I have to have an unnumbered conclusion paragraph at the end of a section of a document and then a heading for a new section.
(Hope this makes sense.)

By Karen~moderator on Friday, March 10, 2006 - 07:59 am:

You can also just go to format/bullets and numbering/select numbering/then select none. That will get rid of any automatic numbering that occurs.

By Dawnk777 on Friday, March 10, 2006 - 08:04 am:

Thanks. Will try that! By the way, the word "brat" is referring to a popular Wisconsin sausage(bratwurst)and and not an unruly child!

By Dawnk777 on Saturday, March 11, 2006 - 10:06 am:

Bump for Ginny

By Ginny~moderator on Saturday, March 11, 2006 - 11:10 am:

Dawn, I'm not sure what the problem is. What I see looks just fine. If what you want to do is add the a/b/c and i/ii/iii, I do that in a workaround. What I do is create the next two numbers, as I did above, i.e, finish 5, enter and get 6 and type a few spaces, enter again and get 7 and type a few spaces. I then go back up and delete 6 and start typing the sections/paragraphs,with the spacing between sections/paragraphs that I want. When I'm done, I highlight them, go into format/bullets-number/select numbering, and click on the a/b/c/ window. Or, in your case, the i/ii/iii window. I know it is tedious, and it shouldn't work that way, but I haven't found a better way. I'll play with it a bit to see if I can come up with anything better.

The other thing I learned is that, of course, if you are typing single space and hit return, Word sticks to single spacing. When I'm done with the document I go back and put the cursor at the beginning of the new paragraph, hit enter to get a double space between paragraphs and, if Word enters a new number in the empty line, just delete it. Now you've tantalized me, and I am going to have to try the outline format to see if I can find a way to make it work (more or less). I'm sure it will need at least a few workarounds.

By Dawnk777 on Saturday, March 11, 2006 - 05:35 pm:

Well, that's just it. It would be nice to have one as a template, that I could just use, when I type up meeting notes. We have a laptop now, so I can be typing right at the meeting. (except for the last one, when I forgot it, since I had to get my soup to church, too!)

I'm going to play with it a little bit, too. That night, after typing up the notes twice, though, I just didn't feel like playing with it anymore. so, I'm thinking of just typing a few characters to make each line and not my whole page of minutes.

By Dawnk777 on Sunday, March 12, 2006 - 12:51 am:

Got the outline thing to work tonight.

You have to do all the formatting for it, and the typing, in outline view. It ended up being 2 pages, even though, without the outline stuff, it would have fit on one page! Argh.

By Ginny~moderator on Sunday, March 12, 2006 - 03:03 am:

You sure did. Great!! (that is, as great as Word wil let it be). I infer you are another stubborn person who thinks - I'm not going to let this silly program get the best of me. Thanks for the hint on Outline View - I'll try that next time I am doing a legal document.

By Dawnk777 on Sunday, March 12, 2006 - 09:19 am:

Yeah, I'm stubborn! LOL!

By Ginny~moderator on Monday, March 13, 2006 - 01:37 pm:

Dawn - it worked!! As it happens, one of my guys needed an actual outline today, from "I" all the way through "iii". So I turned on Outline View, and it works. Of course, it being Word, I have to go back and reformat the font and do some other little things, but what a joy.

Many, many thanks. Now, back to my outline.

By Dawnk777 on Tuesday, March 14, 2006 - 09:53 am:

Oh cool. Now we both figured it out!


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