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Flu question

Moms View Message Board: General Discussion Archive: Archive December 2005 : Flu question
By Jackie on Wednesday, December 14, 2005 - 08:13 am:

Can you have the stomach flu, without aches and pains? My husband thinks hes such a no it all LOL
My 6 yr old threw up a couple of times on Monday and had the loose bowels as well. She stayed home that day. By noon, she was feeling better. She went to school yesterday and seemed ok. At 3am, she woke up again throwing up, with the loose bowels, she seemed a bit warm as well. She threw up a couple of times this morning and is now in bed sleeping again.
Is there a difference between the stomach flu and a stomach virus? My husband thinks its something she ate. But, she was fine all day yesterday.
He doesnt believe its the flu or a virus. I dont know where he got his MD degree from.

By Vicki on Wednesday, December 14, 2005 - 08:22 am:

Actually, I didn't think the "flu" included throwing up. I think it is aches and pains and a fever.... could be wrong on that though. I would say she has a stomach bug!! LOL If it was food poisioning, she wouldn't have felt better yesterday. You KNOW when you have food poisioning!!

By Breann on Wednesday, December 14, 2005 - 09:16 am:

There are so many different types of the flu that I can't keep track of them. My kids have had some sort of virus for the past week. They've had a high fever. It must be the time of year. They are doing better today. I do think that the stomach flu includes throwing up as well as diarreah.

By Karen~moderator on Wednesday, December 14, 2005 - 09:19 am:

Flu is technically a respiratory virus with body aches, fever and headache. Actually, these are the *official* symptoms of the flu:

fever
chills/sweats
cough
muscle and joint pain
headache
fatigue and weakness
sore throat.

People have been calling intestinal virus's the stomach flu for years, but there is technically no such thing as stomach flu. It could be a virus, or it could be food poisoning.

By Bobbie~moderatr on Wednesday, December 14, 2005 - 09:31 am:

Symptoms of flu include:

fever (usually high)
headache
extreme tiredness
dry cough
sore throat
runny or stuffy nose
muscle aches
Stomach symptoms, such as nausea, vomiting, and diarrhea, also can occur but are more common in children than adults

How does it occur?
Many different viruses can cause gastroenteritis, including rotaviruses, adenoviruses, and the Norwalk virus. Gastroenteritis is caused by swallowing one of these viruses. The body fluids of infected people contain the virus, sometimes even before their symptoms begin. The virus can be spread by direct contact with an infected person (for example, kissing or shaking hands) or by sharing food, drink, or eating utensils.

The virus enters the stomach and intestine and inflames the lining of these organs. As a result, the stomach and intestine are temporarily unable to perform their usual functions. The virus can also cause food to move more rapidly through your gastrointestinal (GI) tract.

Some bacteria, parasites, medicines, or other medical conditions can cause infections that have symptoms similar to those of stomach flu. If your symptoms are unusually severe or last longer than a few days, your health care provider can determine if the diarrhea is caused by a virus or by something else.

How long do the effects last?
Stomach flu rarely lasts longer than 1 to 3 days. However, it may be 1 to 2 weeks before your bowel habits return completely to normal

However...

Viral gastroenteritis: Virus causing gastroenteritis of digestive tract.


Viral gastroenteritis information: Gastroenteritis means inflammation of the stomach and small and large intestines. Viral gastroenteritis is an infection caused by a variety of viruses that results in vomiting or diarrhea. It is often called the "stomach flu," although it is not caused by the influenza viruses.

List of symptoms of Viral gastroenteritis: The list of signs and symptoms mentioned in various sources for Viral gastroenteritis includes those listed below. Note that Viral gastroenteritis symptoms usually refers to various symptoms known to a patient, but the phrase Viral gastroenteritis signs may refer to those signs only noticable by a doctor:

Watery diarrhea
Vomiting
Headache
Fever
Abdominal cramps
Stomach ache
Symptoms of Viral gastroenteritis: The main symptoms of viral gastroenteritis are watery diarrhea and vomiting. The affected person may also have headache, fever, and abdominal cramps ("stomach ache"). In general, the symptoms begin 1 to 2 days following infection with a virus that causes gastroenteritis and may last for 1 to 10 days, depending on which virus causes the illness.


List of symptoms of Food poisoning: The list of signs and symptoms mentioned in various sources for Food poisoning includes those listed below. Note that Food poisoning symptoms usually refers to various symptoms known to a patient, but the phrase Food poisoning signs may refer to those signs only noticable by a doctor:

Symptoms depend on the type of food poisoning
Gastrointestinal symptoms
Nausea
Vomiting
Abdominal cramps
Diarrhea
Dehydration
Bloody stool
Retching
Weakness
Fatigue
Fever
Headache
Flu-like symptoms
Cold-like symptoms
Symptoms of Food poisoning: In most cases of foodborne illness, symptoms resemble intestinal flu and may last a few hours or even several days. Symptoms can range from mild to serious and include

Abdominal cramps
Nausea
Vomiting
Diarrhea
Fever
Dehydration

After they are swallowed, there is a delay, called the incubation period, before the symptoms of illness begin. This delay may range from hours to days, depending on the organism, and on how many of them were swallowed. During the incubation period, the microbes pass through the stomach into the intestine, attach to the cells lining the intestinal walls, and begin to multiply there. Some types of microbes stay in the intestine, some produce a toxin that is absorbed into the bloodstream, and some can directly invade the deeper body tissues. The symptoms produced depend greatly on the type of microbe. Numerous organisms cause similar symptoms, especially diarrhea, abdominal cramps, and nausea. There is so much overlap that it is rarely possible to say which microbe is likely to be causing a given illness unless laboratory tests are done to identify the microbe, or unless the illness is part of a recognized outbreak.2

Symptoms vary widely depending on etiologic agent. Diarrhea and vomiting are the most common.


looks like all those still leave you up in the air but it does at least disprove that DH has his MD.. LOL

By Luvn29 on Wednesday, December 14, 2005 - 09:36 am:

I would say she has a terrible virus that has run a rampage on our family!

DD was not feeling so well on Thursday night. Went to school friday, came home not feeling too great. Little bit of a temp. Saturday she seemed fine, went shopping with my mother and decided to spend the night. Around 9:30 she threw up, so my mother called me. Emily wanted to stay there, said she was feeling better, but mommy instinct thought better. By the time I was getting off the phone with her, she was feeling bad again. Woke hubby up (he was already in bed feeling bad, he had had diarrhea) to go get her. She got home, threw up again, and it continued every half hour till around 1:00 a.m. Then she threw up every couple of hours till morning. She felt horrible and stayed in bed all day Sunday. Felt better monday, but ended up feeling bad again that night. Threw up again on Tuesday night. Still feels kind of lousy today, but she went to school.

My son has had a cold and congestion for a week. He started feeling really bad yesterday morning, and threw up once.

I felt bad sunday and on Monday I started throwing up around 11:00 a.m. and didn't stop till that night. I stopped counting at 16 times, Emily said she made it to 20. I haven't been that sick in ages. Yesterday I felt a bit better, but was so weak I couldn't get up for more than a few minutes.

Feeling quite a bit better today.

So, there is definitely a virus out there.... a mean one!!! My stomach and back muscles still hurt!

By Dawnk777 on Wednesday, December 14, 2005 - 09:52 am:

Stomach viruses are NOOOO fun!

By Karen~moderator on Wednesday, December 14, 2005 - 10:48 am:

Definitely NOT! I hope all you guys with sick kids/families start feeling better soon!

By Amecmom on Wednesday, December 14, 2005 - 10:52 am:

I hope eveyone is feeling better soon. Stomach bugs are no fun for anyone ...
Ame

Just be sure to thoroughly wash everything and clean with disinfecting wipes and spray with Lysol afterward. This way you may keep it from spreading - maybe.


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