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Brown teeth/crying baby

Moms View Message Board: Parenting Discussion: Archive July-December 2004: Brown teeth/crying baby
By Fionadeassis on Tuesday, July 13, 2004 - 12:56 am:

2 questions......

I remember reading here a long time ago that someones child had fallen and hurt a tooth and it discolored....

Eliah smashed into some stone steps a few weeks ago and hurt his teeth...nothing you could really see, but his front ones felt a little rough-maybe a tiny bit of chipping.....

Well, the last 2 weeks, one has slowly turned a kind of browny-grey-you really have to look to notice.......

I really am not sure if I should take him to the dentist or not(don't really have th time or the money right now)....I am hoping that it will go away. What would a dentist do to fix or correct or stop this anyways? I think I remember someone saying that it was bruising in the nerve and went away after a while....

crying baby....

Kiko is just over 2 weeks old. The first week he just slept or ate..never cried....

Now....he still sleeps quite a bit-but when he is awke he is so fussy! He breastfeeds really well, but then I can't get a burp out of him and he cries as if he is in pain.

When he goes poo, he strains and pushes but only a bit will come out(although sometimes he will have a 'gusher')....

I have a terrible cold and flu right now...I think he might have it too....his nose is not stuffy-but you can hear that there is phlegm in there(I read that that is normal in a new born-their mucus glands are just starting to work)

I think I am just stressing and obsessing over everything....I never did this with Eliah...I just feel as if Kiko is so fragile.....

I am so sick right now
(so is Dh-so he is no help)...
I am getting rundown and tired after only 2 weeks of having this new baby. I need to have some real sleep!

Does anyone have these same problems with their newborn? I spoke on the phone with a nurse and she seemed to think nothing was out of sorts(she said because I have a strong letdown-my boobs just spray milk everywhere...it is giving the baby gas. I try to express a bit out, but more just comes and sprays after Kiko sucks....I hate the thought that his waking hours are painful.I could burp him for an hour and nothing would come out.

Is there a secret about burping that I don't know?? I never had much of a problem with Eliah.

Excuse any typos...I am tired and have no time to check this....

thanks everyone...fiona

By Tink on Tuesday, July 13, 2004 - 02:46 am:

Hugs to you, Fiona! Honestly, it sounds like you are going through situations that are similar to most new again moms but you are sick on top of it. I also had a strong let-down and never found anything that really helped. Have you tried burping him by laying him across your lap? This worked really well for one of my dks. There are also simethicone drops that are meant for gas that helped relieve some of the pressure when they were young. It sounds like you are doing the right things. Some kids just don't burp very easily. The poo issue sounds like all of mine. I was sure that it had to be terribly painful but after my Pediatrician witnessed one of these episodes, she said it was in the normal range and to comfort her as much as possible but that there really wasn't a whole lot I could do to make it any easier for her. My dh used to pump my dks' legs back and forth and then push their legs against their stomachs gently and it would help them pass gas. The ped. said that it was fine as long as it was done gently. I don't know what to tell you about the dentist and the tooth issue. Someone else should be able to help. Sleep as often as you can and take care of yourself as much as possible. You'll get through this!

By Amy~moderator on Tuesday, July 13, 2004 - 07:15 am:

Fiona, Cori just gave you the same exact advice that I was going to give you! All of those things worked for me. Another tip about burping is I would alternate patting on their back with rubbing their back with a little force. My dks were very hard to burp. I usually got the burp out laying them across my lap if over the shoulder didn't work. Pumping the legs and pressing the legs against the stomach does work wonders for relieving pressure during a painful bowel movement. I did this many times, and it helped often.

Regarding breastfeeding, my let down was always forceful and I, too, sprayed everywhere (LOL) the first few months. However, this is very normal - your milk supply will even out over time according to your baby's feeding pattern. Try not to express any milk unless it is so painful that you must - because this tricks your body into thinking that it must make that much milk to satisfy the baby's hunger. Any excess milk that you seem to be making will even out over time so where you will only make as much milk as the baby needs. It's a pretty nifty natural process. :)

You are right, the phlegm sound you are hearing is normal in newborns. Any sneezing, runny nose, fever would let you know if he had a cold.

It sounds like you are right on track and doing a wonderful job. Things are just tough the first few months with a newborn, no matter how many children you've had. It will ease up - I promise you. Just try your best to get through it and know there is light at the end of your sleep-deprived, worrisome tunnel. If you ever feel doubtful about anything, you should never hesitate to call the pediatrician if only to calm your worries.

I, too, do not have any advice regarding the tooth. I'm sure the other ladies will be more helpful in that area. I would personally try to take him in to see the dentist to be on the safe side, or you could take a wait and see attitude and bring him in after a few days if things aren't improving.


(((Fiona))) I know you are dealing with so much right now. And to be sick on top of it is no picnic I'm sure. You are probably feeling like you have to take care of the whole family right now. Just don't neglect yourself. Remember that you should also be able to take that nap, that break, or that hot bath if you need to. The worse thing you can do right now is neglect yourself. You need your strength right now, especially with baby Kiko. You can't be much help to dh and the kids if you aren't taking measures to keep yourself in the best health and mental state. Remember that.

I hope you and dh are feeling better soon. Take some Sudafed or Robitussin and make a fresh start today. Good luck with all that you are dealing with.

By Coopaveryben on Tuesday, July 13, 2004 - 07:42 am:

This happened to my nieghbor's son, he fell and hit the bathroom counter with his front teeth and it turned grey. She took him to the dentist and the dentist said that since it is not a permenant tooth he is going to leave it..it is fine except for the discoloration. If it isn't a permenant tooth and he isn't in pain he should be okay, but as soon as you are able I would get him to the dentist just to make sure. If you call your local Health Department they sometime have a dentist who comes around for free of charge, try checking with them.

By Truestori on Tuesday, July 13, 2004 - 01:12 pm:

Is sounds to me like your son may have a small fracture on the root. The nerve of the tooth may have been affected or might even be dead because of the impact. Truthfully, if there is no pain most dentist's will allow the tooth to fall out naturally.

If you are really concerned or there is pain I would take him to a pediodontist and have it x-rayed.
Goodluck :)

By Vicki on Tuesday, July 13, 2004 - 01:34 pm:

I don't have anything to add to the things already stated except that my dd also seemed to strain very hard to go poo at first. The ped explained it to me that they have to develop those muscles and it will be harder in the beginning to go for them. He told me that unless she was REALLY in distress over it not to worry and it should be better by 8 weeks I think it was. Good luck! I think we ALL know how your feeling!!

By Schreff03 on Tuesday, July 13, 2004 - 07:41 pm:

I know that when I had my daughter I also nursed her and whenever I ate anything with tomatoes in it, expecially pizza and pasta, she would get cranky. I think she was getting a baby type heartburn with it. To this day, she is now going to be 6 in 2 weeks, she will not eat pasta with sauce and picks the cheese (and black olives) off her pizza. Could that maybe be what is happening with the baby? Maybe it is something you are eating? I had to write down what I ate and how she acted after I fed her. And I think it started at about 2-3 weeks old. Hope that helps a bit?

By Luvn29 on Tuesday, July 13, 2004 - 08:32 pm:

It's been a LONG time since I had a newborn (five years), but I had to give those drops to both of my children for gas pain. It worked wonders and I never went anywhere without it.

I also had to use Karo syrup in their formula because without it my babies stayed constipated. It didn't take much, maybe half a teaspoon to a teaspoon per 8 ounce bottle. I never sweetened their water (when they were older) because I was afraid they'd learn to like it that way and wouldn't drink it without sweetening.

Also, with both babies, I burped mine in a sitting up position. I sat them up on my lap (even as newborns) and cradled their head on one hand and supported them somehow, and patted and rubbed their backs. This worked like a charm. Neither of mine would burp in the shoulder position.

As far as the tooth situation. I am going through the same thing with my 4 year old ds. He fell about a year ago, and it discolored but never caused any pain. I figured it was just bruising. Turns out it killed the tooth, and it started rotting. No pain, because the nerve was dead. The dentist is supposed to pull it, but it has broken off till their is now nothing left of it but a little sticking out of the gums. I have heard that a lot of times, it will just be bruising of the teeth, and the discoloration will go away on it's own. I guess it's just one of those things that is hard to tell... I would suggest the dentist if their is pain, or if you just want to find out for sure. I didn't take mine because there was no pain, and more than likely it has no effect on the outcome. I don't think they could have done anything to help it even if we would have gone immediately. So, probably not much help here!!!

Good luck with all your situations and sure hope things get better soon!

By Karen~moderator on Wednesday, July 14, 2004 - 07:36 am:

Moved from General Discussion board.

By Marcia on Wednesday, July 14, 2004 - 11:27 pm:

I burped my babies as they sat on my knee, just as Luvn29 described. I also massaged the lower part of their backs, on either side of their spines. That was the magic spot, and one that my chiropractor showed me.
I had to cut all dairy out of my diet, and that helped my daughter immensely.
I hope you're feeling a bit better today!


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