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Another question for Scott

Moms View Message Board: General Discussion: Another question for Scott
By Annie2 on Saturday, November 15, 2008 - 10:12 pm:

My dd and I had chicken wings tonight. I had three left on a plate on my arm chair.
I went outside to see dd off with her friends, came back in and they were gone. I don't know if my shepard or my pap ate them.
I gave my shep two butter sandwiches and my pap one butter sandwich.
What should I look for as far as signs of indigestion or stomach problems?

By Scott on Saturday, November 15, 2008 - 11:04 pm:

Indigestion isn't the issue here. Dogs can eat barbecue chicken with no ill efects (unless they're spicy "Buffalo" wings, in which case be on the lookout for diarrhea and/or obviously painful defecation).

Puncture and laceration are the issues. Poultry bones don't break clean like mammal bones, they tend to splinter and shard. Lots of jagged bits to poke holes in various internal structures.

Things to look out for:

gagging or vomiting, with or without blood
abnormaly dark stool (indicating possible high GI bleeding)
red stool ("frank blood"), indicating low GI bleeding
abdominal pain, signs of discomfort or restlessness
signs of hemorrhagic anemia: pale gums, cold ears and paws, lethargy, depression, neurological signs in severe cases

It depends on whether the dog actually chewed the bones before swallowing. If they were chewed, there's always the risk of puncture. If they were swallowed whole, there's a good chance that the cartilaginous caps on the bones will keep the pokey bits covered until they're dissolved by the digestive process.

Given how dogs eat, it's entirely possible that the wings were swallowed whole. I've seen enough radiographs of things swallowed whole to believe that dogs don't chew unless they really have to.

I'd keep an eye on the dog for a few days. Either one of two things will happen:

1. The chicken wings will be metabolized uneventfully.

2. They'll poke a hole in something and you'll know about it right away.

Keep me posted on this. If there's ANYTHING abnormal about your dog within the next few days, write back or call your vet.

By Scott on Saturday, November 15, 2008 - 11:05 pm:

Oh yeah: why not ask your pap if he ate the wings?

By Annie2 on Saturday, November 15, 2008 - 11:42 pm:

Thanks Scott. They are both acting sheepish. I am keeping an eye on them, so far, so good. I know the cat is in the house...she could have eaten them.....never a dull moment!
My pap is my papillion (sp):)

By Annie2 on Sunday, November 16, 2008 - 07:01 am:

Dogs are doing fine. Gumbo, my pap, just pooped and it looked fine. Bandit, my shep, is outside. I just checked on him and he seems fine, too.
I was quite nervous...one hears all stories about dogs and chicken bones.
Thanks

By Luvn29 on Sunday, November 16, 2008 - 12:46 pm:

Help me out here! Butter sandwiches? Huh? As in butter and bread? Do you care to explain? And I promise I am so not being sarcastic! LOL!

By Annie2 on Sunday, November 16, 2008 - 12:57 pm:

If the dogs ate chicken bones I thought that giving them something in their tummies besides their kibble to help bind with the bones would be a good idea.
I didn't do any research, I probably would have freaked but this came to mind.
Yes, bread and butter. I was going to give them peanut butter and bread but could not remember if dogs could have peanut butter.

By Crystal915 on Sunday, November 16, 2008 - 01:06 pm:

Adena, I was wondering the same thing... I guessed it would be to keep them from getting an upset stomach from the hot sauce.

And yes, Annie, they can have peanut butter... Kong toys sometimes recommend using it to fill the center, the dogs love it!

By Dawnk777 on Sunday, November 16, 2008 - 08:08 pm:

Jasmine LOVES peanut butter! Once I mixed some plain yogurt, mashed bananas, and a little peanut butter, doled it into some small containers and froze it for Jasmine. She loved it. (sort of like doggie ice cream, but cheaper than a product called Frostie Paws.)

By Scott on Sunday, November 16, 2008 - 08:42 pm:

Oh, a PAPillon. I was thinking that "pap" was colloquial for "father" or "gandfather" or some such.

As to peanut butter: yeah it's okay and dogs love it. It is fattening, so don't give them a whole lot of it. And don't give them hazelnut butter; hazelnuts are rather toxic.


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