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Vice President Clinton?

Moms View Message Board: The Kitchen Table (Debating Board): Vice President Clinton?
By Dramamamma on Tuesday, June 3, 2008 - 06:13 pm:

I don't know what to think about this, I'm NOT a fan of the Clintons and haven't really been following the election because I've already decided who I'll be voting for. I posted this to see what other's viewpoints on this.


Sen. Hillary Clinton on Tuesday told New York lawmakers she is open to being the running mate of Sen. Barack Obama, her rival for the Democratic presidential nomination, two of the lawmakers told CNN.


Sen. Hillary Clinton trails Obama by 159 delegates and is 201 delegates shy of capturing the nomination.

1 of 2 Rep. Charles Rangel, a senior member of the New York Democratic delegation, also told CNN, "I have reason to believe she is open to the [vice president] slot."

One of the sources added that former President Clinton has been privately pushing for a couple of weeks for his wife to be No. 2 on the ticket.

On Monday night, a close friend and adviser of the former first lady told CNN Clinton will say tonight "that she will do whatever it takes" to put a Democrat in the White House. Obama insiders saw that as an indication she would accept an offer to be his running mate if asked.

"In her speech [Tuesday] night, she will convey the message that first and foremost she is committed to Democrats winning in November and will do whatever she's asked to do," the Clinton adviser said.

Even though she discussed being Obama's running mate, her campaign chairman earlier in the day said Clinton was "absolutely not" prepared to concede the race after the polls close tonight in Montana and South Dakota, the final two contests on the primary calendar.

Terry McAuliffe rejected as "100 percent" incorrect an Associated Press report that Clinton is preparing to acknowledge Obama has the delegates to win the nomination Tuesday night as the five-month Democratic primary process comes to a close.

Obama "doesn't have the numbers today, and until someone has the numbers the race goes on," McAuliffe told CNN.

Obama continued to inch closer to the nomination as superdelegate endorsements trickled in Tuesday afternoon.

Superdelegates are the approximately 800 Democratic party leaders and officials who vote in the delegate nominating process. Around 200 of them have yet to endorse either Obama or Clinton.

Obama on Tuesday had 2,106 delegates, just 12 delegates shy of the 2,118 needed to clinch the nomination. Clinton has 1,914 delegates.


"I came to that decision because I do believe that he has elevated this campaign," Clyburn said. "He has energized our constituents. He is redrawing an electoral map for Democrats."

Clinton continues to fight Obama in the Democratic primary season. Some 61 contests over five months will end Tuesday as Montana and South Dakota hold primaries. Watch McAuliffe say the 'race goes on' »

Only 31 pledged delegates are at stake in those two contests. Even if he loses both states, a rush of endorsements from undeclared superdelegates could allow him to claim victory when he takes the stage in Minnesota on Tuesday.

Obama is holding a rally at the Xcel Energy Center in Saint Paul, Minnesota, the same arena which will house the 2008 Republican National Convention in September. Clinton will spend the evening at a campaign event in New York City. iReport.com: See what cartoonists think of the interminable race

Obama is looking more and more toward a likely general election matchup with John McCain, the presumptive GOP presidential nominee. And while not taking anything for granted, it appears he's starting to look at Clinton as less of a rival and more as an important ally who can help him win in November. See what's next for Clinton »

"We're getting very close to the number that will, that will give us the nomination and if we've hit that number on Tuesday night, then we will. We will announce that and I think even if we don't, this is the end of the primary season, and I think it's very important for us to focus on the clear contrast that's going to exist between Democrats and Republicans in this election," Obama said this weekend while campaigning in South Dakota.


"Sen. Clinton is an outstanding public servant, she has worked tirelessly on this campaign, she has been a great senator for the state of New York and she is going to be a great asset when we go into November to make sure that we defeat the Republicans," Obama said on the campaign trail Sunday in South Dakota, adding Monday in Michigan that "she and I will be working together." Watch Obama vow the party will come together after the primary »

Clinton scored a large victory Sunday in Puerto Rico's primary. It could be a different story in Montana, where Obama is ahead in the most recent polls. Obama campaigned in the state late last week, before stumping over the weekend in South Dakota. Clinton spent Monday in South Dakota. A new poll out Monday in that state puts Clinton up by double digits. But regardless of the results, Tuesday night is much more about the big picture than about who won which primary.
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By Ginny~moderator on Tuesday, June 3, 2008 - 10:07 pm:

I think it would be an absolute disaster. I have supported Hilary Clinton's candidacy from the beginning. But if Obama is the nominee (and it certainly looks like he will be), he would have to be out of his mind to have Clinton as his VP. She is a very strong person, and if they were to be a team in the White House, I think it would be a constant struggle over who is actually the "decision maker" (awful phrase). And given that her husband is a former President, that would make it even more difficult.

I'd also be interested to know if Clinton actually said that to New York lawmakers, or if it is just a rumor more or less started by speculation by some reporter. I find it hard to believe she would consider it, and even harder to believe that the people who run the DNC would consider it.

By Bobbie~moderatr on Wednesday, June 4, 2008 - 12:55 am:

Okay, I am watching MSNBC Live, They are stating that Obama is the Presumptive Democratic Nominee. Clinton says she is going to take the next couple of days to decide what to do next?? "I will not make any decisions tonight."

However, her camp reports that, "IF Obama asks her to run as VP, she may consider it."? and the conference call between the lawmakers and Clinton apparently did take place where she stated she would be open to the idea. The reporters are saying there are concerns that she will attempt to undercut the presidency.. They are stating that the camps will be meeting to discuss the possibility of a joint ticket, with in the next couple of days....

Well, ladies it appears we just might have a front row seat to a major history making presidential election that might just keep getting more history making with in the next few days.

By Texannie on Wednesday, June 4, 2008 - 08:02 am:

I have not generally agreed with Hillary on many issues, but I do admire her and her accomplishments, BUT i am beginning to feel rather sad and embarrassed for her. She needs to bow out gracefully. "offering" to be VP doesn't seem noble or the best thing for the party but more like just not being able to let go or admit defeat.

By Vicki on Wednesday, June 4, 2008 - 08:07 am:

I too think it would be a total disaster and if he even considers it, to me, it is a act of desperation. Like he feels he "needs" her to get elected.

There are stories out there though that are suggesting he is thinking about helping out her campaign to payoff their massive debt, so it seems to me that he must at least be considering it or at least thinking about paying her off for her support.

Funny thing is thought that she gets her personal loans to her campaign paid off before any other debts.......

I too wonder if any of this is fact or just opinions given the way they ripped at each other this whole time. Oh the things that make you go hmmmm.......

By Jtsmom on Wednesday, June 4, 2008 - 09:59 am:

I hate that I am going into this election voting for the person that I think will do the least harm to our country and not the person that I feel so strongly about that will be great for this country, if that makes any sense. I personally think our whole country is in for a disaster. Just my opinion though.

By Reds9298 on Thursday, June 5, 2008 - 09:13 pm:

I tend to agree with Jtsmom in general. I also agree that Hillary as the VP would be a disaster as well, for the reasons Ginny stated. I think she should bow out gracefully and move on.

By Ginny~moderator on Thursday, June 5, 2008 - 10:47 pm:

Vicki, it's something in the federal campaign financing rules that a candidate has to pay off loans the candidate made to the campaign before paying other debts - and I have no idea why, but Hilary Clinton didn't make the rules. Personally, I think all of the vendors and lenders who are owed money by a candidate should be paid first, but that's not the offical rule, and if the Clinton campaign violates those rules it could be hit with huge fines.

By Vicki on Friday, June 6, 2008 - 07:56 am:

I do know and understand that, what I meant by my post was that IF he does help her payoff her debts he would be paying HER first. Sounds to me like buying her support. But that is just me.......

By Bobbie~moderatr on Friday, June 6, 2008 - 04:07 pm:

Buying her support?


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