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I've changed my mind....

Moms View Message Board: The Kitchen Table (Debating Board): I've changed my mind....
By Boxzgrl on Monday, December 6, 2004 - 02:06 pm:

and i'm only posting it here so if it ends up that way it will be in the right place, for moderators sake :)

I'm talking about gay marriage.....

After a lot of thinking and bible study etc... i've changed my mind. I'm not longer *anti gay marriage* i'm just going to mind my own. You see, i've been against if for a while (Not against gays, just the marriage part). I didn't think it was fair to have marriage vows mocked just so gays could prove they could marry. To a degree I still believe it. But this is where I stand now....

I don't believe I can beat the dead horse any longer... it's been dead for a while now! I am a Christian, not a Jehovah's Witness (no offense to those who are) so I don't think its nice or fair of me to expect or try to convince anyone why my beliefs are better than theirs. To each their own, right? My goal as a Christian is to walk my life the way the Lord would want me to, not to judge others and convince them to walk *my* walk. We are all different for a reason. So, i'm going to continue to value the vows I took and i'm going to continue to remember how special our marriage is. If gays want to marry, whatever. Fine. It's against my beliefs but then again so is divorce but I can't tell everyone how to live their lives. I won't vote in favor of gay marriage because when voting I vote based upon my personal beliefs but if it is passed, I will no longer condemn it. I'm learning to live my life based on the good old saying "Love the sinner, not the sin."

That's all, I just had to get it out.

By Palmbchprincess on Monday, December 6, 2004 - 03:23 pm:

An interesting change in opinion, Melissa. You and I rarely see eye to eye in political views, and I still disagree with your choice to vote against gay marriage, but I think it shows open-mindedness to reconsider your views. My disagreement with your voting is simply this: I don't think our country should be ruled by religious views, and though I may not believe in certain things, I think it is a fundamental right of ALL Americans to marry whomever they would like. It's a civil rights issue, IMO.

By Annie2 on Tuesday, December 7, 2004 - 07:47 pm:

Our nation is being changed slowly overtime with the rationale of:
"if you can't beat them; join them".

Not specifically in this issue exactly; in many others as well. The result is the lowering of standards and expectations of American citizens and its youth.

JMO, of course. :)

By Boxzgrl on Tuesday, December 7, 2004 - 09:16 pm:

Annie, I'm not really thinking "If you can't beat em, join em". I'm just at a point in my life where i'm sick of worrying about everyone so they can do as they please and I will do as I please, but as I please is much more preferred. :) My standards are definitely not lowered, I will continue to live with the values I believe, and continue to raise my children the same way. But I cant raise my DD seeing me constantly trying to change a persons opinion or walk in life to suit what I believe. IT makes me think that she will grow up thinking that there is only one way to live, and in turn be a very judgemental person. Maybe not but I guess from now my my values are my values and I will keep em that way unless somebody speciafically asks for my opinion. :) (Of course, after this post since I voluntarily gave my opinion, lol)

By Cocoabutter on Tuesday, December 7, 2004 - 09:39 pm:

I understand what you are saying, but I have a different take on it.

First, if you don't want your dd to be judgemental, you can simply say that YOU don't believe it is what God wants us to do with our lives, and here is why- then go to the Bible and demonstrate to her why it is not right in His eyes. Then stress to her- "BUT, if someone DOES make the choice to live their life that way, we must respect their right to do so in this country - after all, God gave us free will to choose Him or not to choose Him- and remember that God loves them no matter what they do."

Having said that, I do not believe that you should stop trying to change things. Obviously, voting is a strong message to send. But maybe volunteer at something that helps to make a difference. I am sure that you don't want your dd to see you being combative and disrespectful, so do something respectful in order to promote peaceful change.

Personally, a civil union is acceptable to me based on what I just said. It would be blasphemous (sp?) in my opinion to perform a religious union.

I would like to say more here, but I am also preparing a new post! Good Luck!


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