Micheal Moore & President Bush
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How do you feel about Michael Moores attack on President Bush's actions after he found out about the 9-11 attacks?
I am a democrat & I feel like it is an unfair attack aimed at the President. He was a man in front of a room full of children trying to gather his thoughts. I don't think 7 minutes was a long time to wait before getting up to leave. You can see the shock on his face. What reaction did the rest of America have. I sat in shock crying. Isn't the President allowed a moment to gather his thoughts? Would him getting up in that moment going to stop anything else from happening?
Emily,
I agree with you. He probably sat there in shock wondering "Am I dreaming? Is this real? What should I do next, who to call, where to go, what else could be happening that I don't know about right at this moment?"
Do you ever remember a time when someone told you something so shocking you just stood/sat there and watched as time past and did nothing.
This occurred so many times to me, when memorable one is after months of not knowing what was truly wrong with mom, she was in the hospital after spending the night in the er taking catscans.
There the oncologist told me mom had 6-9 months to live if that. I sat there in shock, watching this man's lips move and watching mom converse with him. But I can't remember a thing that was said, many minutes went by and what brought me out of the shock was mom touching my hand and telling me everything would be alright.
How would you leave a room full of children without scary them to death?
Michael Moore is a very angry man that is an anti american socialist time bomb waiting to explode. He is not democrat or republican and would attack anything any U.S. president does. Sad I think.
As far as Bush's reaction it was normal probably and should not even be an issue.
I think Michael Moore is anti American also. I would like to know what type of reaction he had on 9/11.
I think that he is a very angry man, also, who will make a buck at the expense of grieving people. His other book, "Bowling for Columbine" was intended as an expose of guns in this country. However, just the title seems disrespectful to the victims and their families.
To those who lost someone on 9/11, does it HELP them to think that our President was uninformed or apathetic?
He actually does make some pretty thought provoking points, but in his zeal to present his view, he does not always portray the facts accurately..or better yet he takes accuarate facts, but portrays them in a different context resulting in a different interpretation.
He's a zealot, and frankly I find zealots on either side boring and a little scary.
I haven't seen the movie, but all of Michael Moore's movies give you something to think about. You definitely learn something you didn't know before.
There was a bank in Michael Moores movie bowling for Columbine that was giving out free shot guns if you opened up a checking account (something like that). The bank wasn't embarressed about it and opened many more accounts after the movie was released. (People wanted the free shot gun) Now that is something to think about. I don't believe there was any criminal check or anything for the free shot gun because it was a shot gun and the state the bank was in.
I think any of the parents of columbine would be happy that michael moore was trying to educated people about how easy it is to get a gun in the country. I know I would.
Thank goodness for free speech. But you have to take what he says with a grain of salt unless he has proof like the bank and the shot guns.
The seven minutes that President bush was thinking.... I don't know.... again.... Michael moore sure does give us all something to think about. don't know how I would have reacted....
Everyone sure is taking about the seven minutes. I love talk radio and they were talking about it yesterday...
Seems the general view point was he was talking in front of kids and he could just rush away from kids and scare them half to death. Also there was some discussion on how we didn't know we had been attacked yet, we though a plane had hit the world trade center only. (Like a drunk pilot or something.)
I am sure proud of this country were a person like Michael Moore is allowed to make this sort of movie. It is amazing his documentary type movies sell tickets. I guess alot of people are interested in what he has to say. It is so hard to get a different view point on anything that I say it is great. I am interested in seeing the background story to things. Not just regular media junk.
Would families of 911 care about the 7 minutes. I think people want the truth. What happened? Why did it happened? I think it is univeral. What they think about the seven minutes is another thing. The more truth the better. Lies or hiding make you sick. Lies make the country sick. Put it all out there and it least it is the truth. let the country argue about it and see what they think.
I remember seeing him move about car industry and the lost jobs and what it did to the town(not pretty). Very interesting... I saw it by accident because I thought it was another movie, but I was glad to have seen it.
I just wonder (and I have no factual basis for saying this - but I'd love to research it) if the DNC in any way contributed to the making of this film i.e. bankrolling.
What happened in those seven minutes? Does it really matter? Not to me.
I respect Mr. Moore's right to do what he does. I just don't care to watch his film.
I don't believe we need to know everything. Knowing everything does not change my life, does not make it easier In fact, sometimes the more we know, the more helpless we feel and the more frightened. For example: we live very close to a nuclear power plant. For weeks after 9/11 the media was making reports (purely speculation) on how vulnerable it was to attack. Now, do I really need to know that - especially when there is no evidence? Were they trying to draw potential terrorists a road map? I spent weeks in fear that we would have to pick up and run - if we were lucky.
I was in the city on 9/11 (seven months pregnant), my husband was in the city. We didn't spend seven minutes in shock - we spent seven days (or weeks, or months - frankly the shock has not gone yet).
Food for thought can be good. However, I think Mr. Moore's would give me indigestion  .
Ame
I'm glad we live in a country where he can do the movies that he does; however, I think he's all about himself. I don't think he really cares about any of the issues he discusses. I think it's a way for him to get fame either good or bad, he doesn't care. He wants to be the center of attention and he craves publicity to feed his ego. JMO
If anyone's interested, copy and paste this link; there's a really interesting review/article of his movie. It was written by Christopher Hitchens, who is a left winger and used to write for "The Nation" magazine. What he had to say is really worth reading. IMO
http://slate.msn.com/id/2102723/
Carol that was an interesting article thank you for sharing it.
I agree it is great that we live in a country that he can make his movies, but I wish that he would do it responsibly. To put down the President for his "non-action" is just wrong. He did not have the chance to react the way he probably would have, because of the children.
I may have enjoyed the movie, but I will never know, because now I will not watch it. I may not like the the Presidents political standings, but I feel that it is important to support him, because he is our President. This is a time when we need to be united, not torn apart in front of the world.
In the time it took for us to realize what was happening and the time that the last plane went down was not enough for anyone to stop it prepared or unprepared! They keep saying we were so unprepared for this, well tell me when the last thing this big happened to us by outside terrorists?????? I know they have said that the president was told about threats, but how many do you think he gets in a day roughly?? Frankly i am glad we have a president that can keep it together and not panic, what would have been accomplished had he jumped up and ran out of the room? absolutely nothing. I frankly do not think that Michael Moore has given us anything at all to think about except that he has too much time on his hands to criticize anything and everything the president does. Who cares what he thinks? What makes his opinion more important than anyone elses. I don't pay any attention to anything that comes out of his mouth. Why does he think he has more info than anyone else has access to? He doesn't, all he has is a BIG mouth! Sorry, but just seeing that man makes me want to hurl!
"Christopher Hitchens, who is a left winger "
Would michael moore be considered a right winger?
Not that I know the difference. I hate politics.
Michael Moore is not right or left. He is just anit-american who hates America. He wants America to be more canadian. I think he should just move there, but then it is America who has allowed him to be where he is.
I want to see the movie. I'm the kind of person who wants to know how bacon is made (as the saying goes).
I don't think there's anything wrong with Bush sitting there for 7 minutes. I remember at the time thinking that was weird, but it gave him some time to gather his thoughts. I'm sure his heart must have been racing. I also don't think it would have been wrong for him to say, "Excuse me, children. I gotta go to work." But he's a polite, well breed person with good manners and he's probably trained to wait for a proper opening to make an exit.
I'm curious to see what Moore says about it. The Richard Clarke book, Against All Enemies that I'm currently reading is *really* interesting. It opens with the events of 9/11. Clarke was running the show from the White House.
I heard there was misinformation in him new movie. Typical... any political movie always is a bad idea.
Hope it doesn't ruin him career, because I like his other documentaries or what ever you call them.
Feona,
The other movie you saw by Michael Moore was called Roger and Me.
It was about corporate greed and how it effected a small city,almost turned it into a ghost town!
I still think about it now and then.It was based on a story in Flint, Michigan.Do you remember the lady with the rabbits?
She was one of my favorites,a true survivor I thought.I plan on going to see his new movie.
I enjoy them also and am glad that they will show them here in u.s.a.
Why do people think he hate`s America?
Is it because of this Bush thing?
Does he live in America?
I would think not if it is true that he hate`s it so much.
My BIL whom is a republican say`s M.M is a left winger and he hate`s Americans.
I hate politics also.
Michael Moore is from Michigan. I don't think he hates America or Americans. I don't think he is particularly crazy about politicians. His other movies are Roger and Me and Bowling for Columbine.
Can someone explain the title 'bowling for columbine'? I know what bowling is...I know what the Columbine story is....but I sure don't understand this title!
The title comes from the fact that Kliebold and Harris went bowling before school the morning they killed all those kids.
I saw this last night, and although I know I'm in the minority here, I think it presented some valid points. As someone who has been subjected to the lies and spin-doctoring that this administration has perpetrated upon the American public, I find it laughable to condemn this picture for doing the same. Methinks the Right doth protest too much!!!!
Bowling for columbine is on hbo on demand right now.
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